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xan
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« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2011, 02:58:30 PM »

Oh my god! big brother is watching me!!!

Think you for the precisions, I will transmit at once!

I'm confused, I did this explication at work today, adn I knew it wasn't very precise, but I thought it will be didactic...

At least you can see we are trying to teach what we learn here!

Gretsch is my friend Pascal in this forum.

badger is a great modeler and i'm quite proud to be able to help him.

Xan
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« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2011, 05:13:20 PM »

I find this one too:

http://s3.postimage.org/46kv3x7ad/Screenshot_507.jpg

build a diorama of the cementery would be a quite beautyfull challenge!

Xan


Xan, I have so many bits and pieces of I-16's and I-153's that I've thought about doing a diorama of "Barbarossa Victims".  They're so small in 1/72nd scale that the diorama would fit into a fairly small display case.

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Jason
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« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2011, 01:51:20 AM »

Hi all,
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1938 to mid-1940 (probably the majority of I-16s!):  AII “Protective” Green + AII Gray
I would add that some/many (I don't know) had silver on their wood/fabric covered parts.


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Another example of field-applied camouflage on I-16:
Very interesting images, thank you for posting.
There are other known photos of I-16s with splinter camo, I wonder if they are from the same unit.


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Massimo
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2011, 05:20:25 PM »

Oh my god! big brother is watching me!!!
....At least you can see we are trying to teach what we learn here!

Hi Xan,  Smiley
you are doing great job!!!
Good to see French modelers are still interested in GPW planes.  Wink (I know they always were; N-N pilots and their Yaks, 2 unique Soviet planes in Musee de l'Air, etc )


I was really worried that Musee de l'Air I-153 may end-up restored in colours like this:




SAFFC author is considered as an authority, he has already participated in some restoration projects...

Cheers,
KL
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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2011, 05:25:13 PM »

I don't know, Konstantin, I kind of like that scheme.  Maybe I can use my WEM Tractor Green for this.

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Jason
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2012, 03:15:57 PM »

Hi Xan,  Smiley
You surely have not the answer, but do you imagine this plane was in a training school since the begining?

We surely have the answer for plane No 1:  It was photographed at the Pruzhani airfield in Belaruss and it belonged to 33 IAP (33rd Fighter Regiment).  Experts on this subject have figured that this was actually regiment commander's plane!

You got it right, between 1937 and 1940 only 3 colours were in use: green, gray and silver.
But, those two I-16 were more likely overall gray!!!  More precisely AE-9 gray for metal parts and AII Gray for fabric/plywood.  Shocked

Reasons/sources:
1.   I-16 Type 10 manual from 1939, scans available on the net, specifies gray nitro paint for lower surfaces.
2.   Maslov in his last I-16 book explaines that undersurfaces were painted in gray and then coated with transparent nitro varnish.

So my guess for fancy No 1 is: gray for metal parts and varnished gray for fabric covered parts!!!  The transparent varnish makes the difference between the two.

I wonder what did Pilawskii say for this I-16??? Wink

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KL

 

One of my books has a little information on this plane.



Also could you tell me the book for the 33 IAP identification of this I-16 I think I would like to get that one.
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2012, 11:54:56 PM »

One of my books has a little information on this plane.



Also could you tell me the book for the 33 IAP identification of this I-16 I think I would like to get that one.

source of my info is internet, not a book  Roll Eyes
It comes from M. Timin, he is a reliable author, a real expert.

Author of your book is E. Pilawskii, known as a totally unreliable source  Lips Sealed
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« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2012, 05:02:16 AM »

Thank you KL for the reply.
 
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« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2012, 10:19:02 AM »

Also could you tell me the book for the 33 IAP identification of this I-16 I think I would like to get that one.

I-16 with VVS emblem was photographed at Lutsk airfield with 89 iap planes.  It's funny  Cheesy how Pilawskii can't recognize VVS emblem; for him it's an "interesting winged badge"  Grin

Silver I-16 tail No 1 was photographed at Pruzhani airfield and belonged to 33 iap.

KL
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