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Bert
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« on: June 18, 2011, 03:45:23 PM »

Hi
one of my current project is a I-16 type 18 (ICM). I have some questions and here is my first question:

Colour scheme
I want to build a plane of the Khalkin-Gol campaign 1939. Fortunatley ICM offers such an option ("red 9").
- I can not find a photo of "red 9". Can somebody help?
- Are black outlined stars more likely?
- Blue or aluminium undersurface?



Thank you in anticipation!
Bert
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xan
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2011, 05:21:38 PM »

Hi,
other friends will answer better, but I thi,fk  that it's not blue , neither alu, but grey

Xan
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KL
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2011, 08:29:56 PM »

Colour scheme
I want to build a plane of the Khalkin-Gol campaign 1939. Fortunatley ICM offers such an option ("red 9").
- I can not find a photo of "red 9". Can somebody help?
- Are black outlined stars more likely?
- Blue or aluminium undersurface?

Halkin-Gol photos are rare:  few from accident reports and few from war correspondents who took propaganda photos, mostly pilots and Japanese wrecks.  You will probably find most of existing photos in Russian book by Kondratiev (probably same selection in new Kotelnikov's book in English).

For Colour scheme you have to apply common sense:

   Type 18 was produced from late 1938
   Light blue was discontinued in 1937 and it reappeared as AII Light Blue in mid-1940
   1939 Type 10 techn manual specifies AII Light Gray
   Acording to Maslov, I-16's undersides were painted in light gray first and then finished with glossy clear varnish
   Silver AII Aluminum was used on I-15bis undersides at approx the same time
   Some I-15bis, I-16 and UTI-4 photos suggest different paints for fabric and for metal parts.  These paints are interpreted as light gray AE-9 for metal and silver AII Aluminum for fabric parts

Hope this helps,
KL
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xan
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2011, 11:43:01 AM »

But konstantin how would you paint it ?
Xan
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KL
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2011, 11:51:59 AM »

But konstantin how would you paint it ?
Xan

Like this Winter War wreck:



Cheers,
KL
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Bert
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2011, 11:30:01 AM »

@ KL
There are no photos in Kotelnikov's book  Sad


Are there any photos of other Type 18's ? Maybe Red Banner Fleet?
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Bert
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2011, 01:01:00 PM »

Lower air intake type 18
Was the lower air intake of type 24 style or was it the "T" of the earlier type 10 & 17?
It seems to me that the air intake look like the one of type 24 but I'm not sure.
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marluc
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2011, 07:27:59 AM »

Was the lower air intake of type 24 style or was it the "T" of the earlier type 10 & 17?
It was the square shaped intake like the Type 24 because the oil cooler was enlarged.Hope it helps Bert.Greetings.

Martin
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Bert
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2011, 04:35:58 AM »

Thanks, it helps.
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Bert
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2012, 10:20:35 AM »

I-16 from Khalkhin-Gol compaign

Hi
My I-16 type 18 is still on the workbench but I have finished a type 17 Smiley

My question: Were there really type 18 in Mongolia? It could be a misunderstanding, because there were a lot of type 10 upgraded with M-62 engine!?
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