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66misos
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« on: October 27, 2014, 06:03:28 AM »

Hi,
here I started to colorize another photo:

It should show Czechoslovak La-5FN and pilots somewhere in Poland during their fly from SU to Slovakia in winter 1944/45.

And here is my Oct 27 update:


Your comments are again more than welcome.
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2014, 06:46:41 AM »

Hi Misos,
looks a good start. I would check if the thin panel covering the exhaust pipes should be bare metal too.
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2014, 10:29:18 AM »

Good work, so far, 66misos! I hope it's as good as your Il-2 work.

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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2014, 11:22:34 AM »

Hi Jason,
it very depends on the quality of the source photo. This one is closer to Il-2 above Berlin than to the last one, Il-2 at the Budapest airport.
Anyhow, be sure I will do my best Wink
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2014, 06:55:57 AM »

Very good! Cheesy I will love the finalized version!
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2014, 09:41:32 AM »

Hi,
a little update today - pilots uniforms, although not sure about all that colors. I replaced colorized WIP photo above.
Massimo, I checked other Czechoslovak La-5FN in the MBI publications. They were (often) repainted in the field, not following standard scheme very strictly, they all seems to have repainted thin panel covering the exhaust pipes.
I found this photo also in the mentioned MBI publication. Caption says: "Training of the pilots of the 1. Czechoslovak mixed air division in SU, Przemysl, winter 1944-45. In the background, behind a group of Czechoslovak airmen, stands one of the La-5FNs usedf there (photo: J. Vrany collection)"
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2014, 12:34:48 AM »

Hi Misos,
good work.
As suggested previously, the colors of the uniforms (and of all the image in general) could be less flat if you turn lights to yellow-red and shadows to blue-cyan.
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2014, 05:58:22 AM »

Hi Massimo,
another advance plus adjustments according to your recommendations:

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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2014, 09:09:46 AM »

Hi,
finished photo is posted in the galery at http://sovietwarplanes.com/board/index.php?topic=1902.0
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2014, 11:58:06 PM »

Hi Misos,
it is an excellent work as usual, but I would suggest to saturate colors, particularly on the ground and crew.
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2014, 09:44:17 AM »

Hi Massimo,
I reworked pilot's uniforms but the ground is intentionally left as it is. Also on the other forum is was recognized as frozen ground with the dry gras - exactly what I wanted to do.
I already updated picture in the galery.
Thanks for advice.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2014, 06:57:02 AM »

Hi,
I have got interesting note at Czech modelforum - "Board numbers were (usually) outlined red or blue. Why did you make it solid white?"
This is original photo:

There is some outline visible. However, I do not know whether it is original outline or only compression artefacts.

Here is enlarged detail with alternatives:


At Massimo's Mig3 page is this picture:

with this text: "White number with blue outline; the only original fragment of La-5FN shows a dark blue outline around the white bort number. Those numbers were standard and painted in the factory, so it is likely that all La-5F. FN and La-7 had this style of numbers."
Seems I should again rework/update colorized picture Huh
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2014, 07:10:27 AM »

Hi Misos,
I didn't noticed this detail. Sorry.
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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2014, 07:35:00 AM »

Hi Massimo,
it is OK, there is no reason to appologize. Just oppozite, I like these discussion on the different forums. More people, more notes and corrections with the common goal - color picture as much historicaly accurate as possible. I do not like one-man-show approach like some other profile painters with "historian hut". Wink
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2014, 11:28:06 AM »

Hi,
I was a bit quite. My comp was gone Cry I use "spare" 6 years old PC (formerly my daughter's PC) now. No possible to make pictures on it, just to play on internet.
Here are some outcomes from discussions about outline of the board numbers at:

1.) airforce.ru forum (Mikhail Bykov, Igor Zlobin...):
- black outline was very rare,
- if outline is very apparent, it is most probably red or dark blue,
- if outline is visible only a little, is is most probably blue like that one on Mig3 page.

This is another Lavochkin used by Czechoslovaks in SU - outline is very light:


2.) modelforum.cz forum:
- Photo of the La-7 remnants found near by Klimkovice, Czech Republic on September (2014) - board number is dark blue:

- dark blue outline - zavod 381 in Moscov,
- light blue outline - zavod 21 Gorkij.

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